Fall and Redemption

Here’s the final message in our series, “In The Beginning…”

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  • Edward Banmiller

    Enjoyed the message on Sunday. I really feel challenged through your preaching. That is a good thing because things had become a little stale for me. I spent the entire week so far studying this passage. I had to try to figure out how you came to the conclusion that Gen. 2-3 is to be read as figurative. If you can imagine, I am coming from a dispensational beckground with my bible study training being to take the text literally except when it is poetic in nature, prophetic in nature, or specifically states that it is figurative. So I looked at this one again.

    I read it literally and realized that literally, Satan was not mentioned in the passage. I did a word study on serpent, and it literally means snake. And I studied how a verse in Revelation refers to Satan as the serpent of old. I didn’t really think that was good enough evidence to hang the fact that Satan was in the garden because I feel you should be able to interpret the passage with the surrounding text. And of course Revelation was written several thousand years later in a different language. Furthermore, the explanation that God was talking to a snake in Gen. 3:14, then switched to talking to Satan in 3:15 (protevangelium) just doesn’t hold true because the text clearly doesn’t display that. So I had to conclude that this part of the passage was clearly alluding to the fact that the serpent is a representation for the temptation of Satan.

    I am not so clear if you were stating that Eden is a figurative and not a literal place. I understand we have never seen the angel or the flaming sword, and that to me could be spiritual in nature, something there but unseen. Also I understand that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life are symbolic. However, may I ask you to elaborate on how you came to the conclusion that Eden is not an actual place?

    • richard

      I agree. It does not say anything about satan but how do you know the garden of eden is mythical?

      • http://www.BrianJones.com/ Brian Jones

        I wouldn’t say its mythical. Not in the sense at all in that it didn’t exist. I believe there was a first human being (Adam), and that woman was made from/by/in connection with this first man, and the place in which they lived was untouched by human sin. The LANGUAGE used to describe this was what would be called mythical language, but only in the sense of describing something that was actually real/historical, just as Gen 2 states.