Should We Start A Saturday Night Service?

Years ago a good friend of mine emailed me and asked my advice concerning whether or not I thought his church should start a Saturday night service. Lots of pastors are weighing whether or not this is a good move, and rightly so. I get this question a lot, so I thought I’d share what I told him years ago:

Vince,

If you call me on my cell I can talk a lot faster than I can type, but in a nutshell here was our experience:

1. I surveyed pastors for one full year about Sat. night services and decided to launch one in December of 2005. We killed it in April of 06, four months later.

2. The service was reaching 150-200 people (we ran 800+ in the other three), but 95% of them were CCV transfers from Sunday morning to Saturday night. Of those people who switched services well over 1/3 of them STILL came to Sunday morning.

3. We cast vision for one year, recruited a massive team of volunteers to pull it off, and sunk $ into direct-mail & signs to advertise it. We gave it EVERYTHING WE HAD.

4. Everyone told us that if you are going to be successful you had to offer the IDENTICAL programs you offer on Sunday mornings, so we offered a full kid’s and teen program identical to our Sunday service. Everything was the same.

5. I hated life more during the four months we did Saturday night than any other time during our church’s six year history. It robbed a day from my work week because we made Monday a mandatory day off. Saturdays with my family were gone. Over. Outta here. I had to cut out of everything at noon. My kids weren’t thrilled because I started missing all their sports activities. My wife was great about it (since that became the service she attended and served at) but over time she began to notice how that one service began to trap our family even more to the internal orbit of the church. My personal evangelism began to suffer. We gave staff weekends off to compensate for their weekends being completely ripped off from them, but then we noticed a severe lack of continuity between programming and the overall quality of the services and kids’ programs. Everything suffered: The quality of our programs; the morale of our staff; my overall attitude toward the church.

6. If I had seen measurable data that showed the Sat. service was a killer outreach venue I would have given it much, much longer to play out, but we couldn’t see any progress toward that goal, so it became a HUGE relief to our staff when one day I stood up before everyone and said, “Guys, does anyone else besides me think this Saturday night service was a really stupid idea?” Two hours later we killed it. That was on a Wednesday at our staff lunch. We sent letters to the church and made phone calls to our volunteers and didn’t even have a service that Saturday. Our entire church was elated.

7. That decision to launch a Saturday night service was one of my worst decisions made here at CCV. My decision to kill it was one of my best.

8. We have adopted Andy Stanley’s philosophy here: Never, under any circumstances, will we ever have a Saturday night service, even if we thought it could be a great outreach venue. The value we have on caring for our staff and volunteers and enjoying life together takes precedence over adding 1/7 more unchurched people to our aggregate worship attendance.

Brian

What do you think? Does your church have a Saturday night service? Has it been a positive experience? For staff? For volunteers? For attenders? Did you kill one?

 

  • Caleb

    What do you think about an identical Sunday night service? Andy Stanley has one at Buckhead, Miles McPherson at the Rock in San Diego had one? Thoughts about if it’d be successful keeping it in one day?

    • Brian Jones

      Man I don’t think so. It was a pretty painful experience. Of course I’m open to anything the spirit wants us to try, I’m just convinced the Spirit has taught us a lesson (at least for our context). You?

      • Caleb

        I don’t know either. We have not outgrown our Sunday morning space yet, but I do think that there is a whole Nother group of people to reach who cannot attend church on Sunday mornings. Saturday night services work very well when I was in Los Angeles, but I have not seen anyone who does them really well here in Dallas. I guess that’s why I was wondering about Sunday night. I really don’t know, and I don’t know this is the year for us to try it

  • http://billgrandi.com bill (cycleguy)

    We moved into our building knowing it was too small initially but had plans to expand. Then we got hit with an embezzlement that put us way behind and plans on the backburner. We tried 2 Sunday mornings but it didn’t work over the long haul. then we tried saturday night but I killed it after about 2 months. What a dud! Except for maybe an Easter weekend, I will not try it again. Thanks for being willing to admit to the failure but also lessons learned.

  • Brian Jones

    Bill…killed it after two months??? That’s hysterical. But painful. Been there. Call me old fashioned or what, but I definitely see a rhythm to a weekly work week and then “The Lord’s Day” as it says in scripture. Of course I don’t think that’s like a hard and fast biblical rule for all congregations at all times and places. I just see the logic and flow to that natural rhythm that the early church modeled. Hope you are doing well.

    • http://billgrandi.com bill (cycleguy)

      I had no problem with trying the Saturday night worship but it wasn’t worth the 10 or so people who came to alleviate the space problem. The last couple of weeks it was the worswhip team and my wife and I. It was worth the try to make some space but didn’t work out. I am doing well Brian. Thanks for asking.

  • http://www.executivepastoronline.com Kevin Stone

    Brian,

    As your Executive Pastor through the preparation, start up, operation, and death, let me say, “You summed it up perfectly!”

    Saturday night? Nope!

    Thanks for the great post!

  • http://www. Bill

    I love how you broke down your rationale for not selecting a Saturday night service. I wish all leaders took time to deeply reflect on their decisions like you did here.

    Plus, college football is often played on Saturday night and you would miss the Buckeyes:)

    • Brian Jones

      Amen brother!

  • Barbara King

    I came to this website for a different reason, but since I’m here and found this discussion, I’d like to put a few thoughts in here if I may. Understand I don’t live in your neck of the woods, so I don’t know the size of your fellowship, how many services you have on Sunday morning, nor do I know what your church offers people. However, in my neck of the woods, I have participated in several such services while they were available and they were a great benefit to me and a number of people I know. Let me share a couple three reasons why.

    For those who had to work on Sundays and were not able to get to worship on Sunday at all had an alternative service to go to.

    For a good number of people like myself, who do not do well in very large groups (say 500-1000+), a Saturday evening service works quite well. I don’t do well due to various forms of illness that makes dealing with large numbers of people very difficult; this is the same for a number of people who went the same service I did. Such experiences were very intimate with the Lord as well as the brethren – sweet fellowship.

    You all do what you wish – I don’t know what all you did to look into whether there was a need in your area, and you certainly don’t answer to me. I don’t see the Lord relocating me to the Philadelphia area at all anytime soon.

    I came to this site to visit with Brian about a couple matters. If y’all would keep a couple unspoken concerns in prayer, I would greatly appreciate it.

    God’s grace and peace.
    In the Clutches of the Cross,

    Barbara King

  • http://www.smallgroupsbigimpact.com Jim Egli

    Sounds like you were very wise to kill yours. It has worked very well for us to do Saturday night, much better than doing three Sunday morning services. The problem with three Sunday AM services is that most people with kids want to come to the middle service which is particularly problematic if kids space is a primary problem.

    • Brian Jones

      Jim, I feel you on the squeezed kids at second service experience. That happens here at CCV too.

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